According to a frustrated pronouncement made by Josh yesterday, they both jump off of/over things without checking out the landing first (this also applies to 16-year-old skiers, Juha).
On his way to my parents' house (near the mountains), Josh saw 5 deer jumping carelessly over the road, fences, etc. It reminded him of a time when we lived at Sundance and he walked into our backyard and came upon a deer, who promptly jumped over the fence--basically off of a small cliff--at the sight of him to a much worse fate than it would have encountered in my vegetarian husband. But in the deer's defense, how was it to know that in gun-toting Utah?
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